Category: Meetings and Work Parties

The overhanging branches have been cleared plus general clearance on the  Hinton bridle-path so the route is now much easier to negotiate.  This was done by John on his own as  no one else was available or turned up at the work-party on Sunday.

Work party 10am Sunday 12th March 2017 to clear overhanging branches from Route A Hinton – Winterdine Bridleway.

Meet at Hinton end.

Present:

John, Chris, Clare, Gill, Kay, Wendy, Gill

Apologies:

Pete, sally, Louise, Paula, Yvonne, Steve

Lost Routes – Restoring The Record

A summary was circulated (created by Sally). See below.

Wendy (Beaumont) has been working on this in her own area (Ditton Priors) and gave us a lot of very useful advice. A big thank you to her.

First step is to identify an area/route and then using various archive resources to research any documentation that may help to show that this was a historical right of access. Some documents and maps are available on-line e.g. Scottish Archive records do have English records available online. Aim is to find some evidence that the selected route was once a road or bridleway. Look at records from 1880 to early 1900’s. Any road at this time would naturally be for horses as cars were not in wide use plus any records to say it would have been a public use (e.g. to an Inn or cider house). Wendy had a set of Cassini Historical Maps 1831-1832, 1902-1902, 1920-1921 for our area which showed a number of routes as roads or tracks which we would be interested in making into bridleways. Gill Eyre also has some useful historical maps which we can access. At some stage a visit to Shropshire Archives will be needed.

Wendy recommended that we focus on routes which are not on current definitive maps as these are the ones we will lose in 2026.

BHS have good expertise and may be able to help and also put their names down on any paperwork (to avoid any upset with the local land owners). A couple of routes were proposed and we will need to research these further.

Council Support for Improvement Projects

Tim will organise stone and for their digger to improve Walters Lane. He would like us to first talk to Walter to make sure he is aware of plans and does not have any objections. ACTION – John to either speak to Walter or ask Steve Jones to talk to him and then let Tim know and he will go ahead. They have budgeted for this work.

Crammer Gutter to bottom of Withies Bank – Tim will look at doing some digger work on this to open up ditches (may not be until next year)

Detton to Prescott – Tim will look at doing digger work top open up ditch down to brook (may not be until next year)

Chris had separately spoken to Tim and John to Richard (Council Rights Of Way Team) and both said same. They have budget constraints and are under pressure to do paid work so are not able to commit to any more work.

Top of Crammer Gutter – ACTION Chris to chase Carl Pickup for info on what we can do regarding drainage etc. Hopefully the council will provide stone and we have some drainage pipes we could probably use. We can then ask Ed if he is still prepared to provide some digger work.

Finance

The Quiz was a great success and generated some much needed funds to pay for work that has already been done.

Thanks again to everyone involved !

Next Meeting

It was proposed that we have our “Christmas Meal” on Wed Jan 11th at the Fighting Cocks. Please put this in your diaries.

 

SUMMARY OF RIGHTS OF WAY – RESTORING THE RECORD

Why?

·        In 2000, Parliament decided any old unrecorded ways should be extinguished to provide certainty to landowners

·        But 25 years allowed for the legal record to be brought up-to-date

·        Therefore any unrecorded ways will cease to exist in 2026

How are Public Rights of Way Recorded?

·        Definitive maps

·        Responsibility of the local authority to keep up-to-date

How to get the Definitive Map Updated

·        Anyone can  apply for a change to the definitive map

·        Submit:

A completed application form

A map showing the route to be added or reclassified

Evidence to support the change

·        If local authority agrees it makes a “definitive map modification order” – open for objections and,  if received, determined by Inspector acting for Secretary of State

Different Approaches

·        Research a particular route that has been regularly ridden – may be designated as a footpath

·        Research a route that stops in the middle of nowhere for no apparent reason

·        Research a whole geographical area for possible historical paths that are not defined on the current Ordnance Survey maps

Methods of Research

·        The text details:

A suggested order, with separate methods for single routes or area-based research

Frequently consulted types of evidence – giving values and star ratings

The mechanics of making the application and the statutory forms

Helpful hints for records office visitors

A guide to archive and record offices

Questions to Answer

·        Establish whether particular route(s) are to be researched or an area approach?

·        Who is prepared to dedicate the time to do the research?

·        What historical records are available within the group to do the initial investigation?

(n.b. Gill Eyre has some historical maps which Sally and Gill looked at briefly – John has a set of the current definitive maps for the area in large scale – the book is available to guide you through the process)

If the issue is different – e.g. the obstruction of a current designated bridleway (Cleeton Court) then this should be dealt with directly with the Local Authority Countryside Mapping and Enforcement Team

Meeting 7:30pm Thusday 24th November at Clare’s (Clare, hope this is still OK)

Main topic is to look at any local routes we need to get opened up and/or protected.

Present:

John, Yvonne, Steve, Chris, Jo, Clare, Gill, Sally, Louise

Apologies:

Gill, Pippa, Pete, Paula, Kay, Jakie, Beverley

 

Visit By Tim Simmons Council Byway Officer

Steve, John and Chris and a successful meeting with Tim. Our priority projects were discussed and Tim offered that  the council will be able to provide drainage stone as required. He also mentioned that he could provide a digger to do some of the work after October. A separate report will be created listing actions from this meeting.

Quiz

Clare has had some posters created (by Clare at Cleobury Country) and these were distributed. Clare will contact SSRC to get a listing on their Facebook page. Posters need to be put up at suitable locations in the area.

*****Everyone needs to publicise the event to make it a success

5 Rounds –

Yvonne – Misc

Clare – Famous Horses

Jo – Food & Drink

Lousie – Pic Round

Chris – Video round to be done during break

Food – Sally, Alan Gill, Paula to arrange food for a ploughman’s supper plus some nibbles  – target to cater for 50 (probably optimistic but any spare can be distributed amongst the committee)

Drink – Bring your own but we will have a few bottles of wine available

Jo – Purchase wine and fruit juice.

Prize – Clare will provide a suitable pize for the winning team

Raffle – Yvonne has tickets

John and Lousie will provide prizes, Jo will provide a cake.

Scoring Board – Chris to provide

6:30pm Setup – Yvonne will collect key

 

Next Meeting

Thursday 24th November  7:30pm at Clare’s

Main topic will be important routes that need to be opened up/protected etc. and what we can do.

Please come to the meeting on Tuesday 4th October 7:30pm at Well Farm as we need to arrange the Quiz fund raiser evening on Friday 21st Oct and we need everyone’s help! Thanks.

The meeting originally planned for Tuesday 20th Sep has been postponed to Tuesday 4th October 7:30pm, venue Well Farm.

Key topics will be arrangements for the fund raiser Quiz to be held at Cleeton St Mary Village Hall on Friday 21st October and feedback from the recent (and successful) meeting with Tim Simmons (Council Byways Officer).

Please do try to attend this meeting.

Also please help us promote the Quiz and make a note of the date in your diary.

Thanks.